Donald Trump Jr., executive vice president of the Trump Organization and trustee of a trust holding its assets, testified that he never worked on his father’s financial statements, which are now at the center of a civil fraud trial threatening former President Donald Trump’s real estate empire. “As a trustee, I have an obligation to listen to those who are experts — who have an expertise in these things,” he said. The lawsuit, brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James, alleges that Donald Trump, his company, and top executives, including sons Donald Jr. and Eric, conspired to exaggerate the former president’s wealth on financial statements to secure loans and make deals.

Throughout the testimony, Donald Trump Jr. maintained that he had no specific knowledge of the financial statements and had relied on outside accountants and the company’s then-finance chief, Allen Weisselberg, for accuracy. His brother, Eric Trump, and their father, Donald Trump, are also set to testify, along with their sister, Ivanka Trump, whose lawyers have appealed the decision requiring her testimony. The former president has repeatedly called the case a “sham” and a “scam” and defended his children, writing “Leave my children alone, Engoron” on his Truth Social site.

The civil fraud trial continues to unfold, with multiple members of the Trump family set to testify in the coming days. The outcome of the trial could have significant implications for the former president’s real estate empire, as well as for the Trump family as a whole. It remains to be seen how the testimony of Donald Trump Jr. and the other family members will impact the case and its final verdict.